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12 September 2010 @ 12:28 pm
This post really doesn't tie the room together...  

So, I saw "The Big Leboswki," because most of you gave me over a decade of hype. I finally saw this film and it confused the heck out of me. It was like they kept opening up the plot threads wider and wider and then just ended. I was promised the quality of "Pulp Fiction," Raising Arizona," and "Fight Club," all of which I liked. I did not like this film. I mean, I had a few LOL moments, but overall, it was confusing and poorly edited. And I don't understand the cult following, particularly.

After soliciting a few opinions, I found out I am somehow broken inside and don't get the overall message. Some of you got ANGRY about it, and that was even weirder. One of these main things I keep hearing is "everyone has a part of them that wants to be THE DUDE." I don't think I am one of them. At all. Part of what bothers me about films like these is the main character seems to have a lifestyle with no seen monetary support but sustains anyway. Potheads with no job or goals are pretty much people still living with their parents, or have a roommate who doesn't have the stomach to toss them out on the street. Or they are homeless. First, let me ask an honest question:

How much does pot cost?

I literally have no idea. I know it's sold in quantities like dime, nickel, and by ounce or gram. I researched this online, and figured a joint runs about 40-45 joints per ounce on average, and an ounce around here might be $120-300/oz depending on quality. No idea in LA when this movie was supposed to take place. But a joint here would be between $3-5 each (I guess) and The Dude was smoking several a day.

Where did he get the money?

Now, that's just weed. I am not sure about rent, since it said he was late, and his landlord looked a little squirrelly, so let's assume the landlord doesn't really collect. Unrealistic, but possible if the landlord is an idiot. So The Dude needs to eat. He also has power and phone, right? And a car, so he needs gas, and technically insurance unless he's also driving uninsured (also possible). He also has to pay for bowling lanes and lord knows what else for tournament fees (although, maybe his friends cover him for that). Basically, even at a very low estimate, The Dude needs a monthly salary of several hundred bucks. And he has no job. In the real world, these people sponge off of roommates and parents, but The Dude lives alone.

And that's hard for me to accept. But that was just one problem I had with the film. It seemed like the movie opened far too many complicated sub plots and then never did anything clever with them. Like the story kept unfolding and then never presented an end that made my 2 hours of keeping track of everything even worth it. I kept expecting this clever end, but it just seemed like "the Dude" was a character left high and dry without any growth or reason to invest time in him.


Something Girlcr0wgrrl on September 12th, 2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
A lot of those questions can be answered with "The Dude abides..." and the assumption that some people just manage to Get By.

That said, I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, either. It just didn't grab me, and I think it missed its final, best note. At the end, he should have lost his house but gotten the rug. It would have been a much more satisfying answer.
Deepthinkdeepthink on September 12th, 2010 07:11 pm (UTC)
Instead of pot and finances, let's talk about the movie. It's a Coen Brothers comedy with snappy dialogue and a convoluted plot. There is some physical humor and a couple of really great sight gags, but that isn't what makes it a comedy.

As played straight, the plot would be perfectly filled in with and accomplished by a film noir hardboiled detective a la Bogart as written by Raymond Chandler. The humor primarily comes from the out of place lead. He isn't unmotivated -- he works to indulge his own laziness -- or stupid, he's just walking to a different beat and so constantly surprised by the script. The Dude is so completely out of his depth when caught up in events that it doesn't matter whether he resists or plays along, the story continues charging forward and taking him with it.

A lot of thought went in to making The Big Lebowski, but watching it can be a completely casual experience. Drop your sympathies at the door, and either boggle at the spectacle, or laugh at the clown.
Aynneaynne_witch on September 12th, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
If I ever finally get around to maybe seeing it - I'll try and remember to let you know what I think...

Um, no haven't seen it yet but from everything I've heard about it so far - it may be on the stumble across viewing list at some point.
alluraallura on September 13th, 2010 12:55 am (UTC)
you aren't alone. Neither Sean nor I liked the film either.
pianodanpianodan on September 13th, 2010 01:01 am (UTC)
I didn't like that movie one bit.
feyandstrange on September 13th, 2010 01:13 am (UTC)
Nah, I'm with you on that too. I think that for those of us who have either had to struggle or are just more sensitive to money issues, we don't find those "coasters" and people who just live off of others as being very amusing.

I actually had somebody try to tell me that because I was on disability now I could live like that. GRR.
chellebelle74chellebelle74 on September 13th, 2010 06:13 pm (UTC)
I've found that it's just one of those movies that you either love or hate. There doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground. And yet, I seem to be one of those odd ducks that occupies the middle ground on it. I can see what the Cohen Brothers were trying to do, and even laughed at and enjoyed pieces of the movie, but I'm not so enamored over it that I'm ready to join the cult. I don't regret watching it, but I'd also be completely satisfied with life if I never saw it again. Just my 2 cents... YMMV...
Gwen: jazz_lenierglittagwen on September 14th, 2010 09:16 pm (UTC)
People get very antsy when you dislike something that they love, I've found. I don't get that...